There seems to be a LOT of bbs people using ai to make things. And they don't give credit to AI. Just by the interfaces and graphics I can tell it's AI.
they usually have this cover story, 'been working on this for years, finally Had time to finish it' type stuff.
Seriously, if you are going to use AI stop making up stories and just say you are using ai.
I think if you're using ai you should give credit where credit is due.
Re: ai shit from bbs people.
By: MRO to All on Sat Jul 04 2026 07:01 pm
There seems to be a LOT of bbs people using ai to make things. And they don't give credit to AI. Just by the interfaces and graphics I can tell it's AI.
AI has allowed me to do create more things in the last year or two than I've been able to do my entire 30+ years in tech. Anything I release
I think it should just be assumed (and really, not judged) that AI is going to be used by anyone serious about development. It's like saying "I used a computer to make this", well, yeah, that's assumed. You used the Internet, an > editor (maybe), a compiler, library manager, linker, build/project manager,I think there should be a disclaimer if you have a co-contributer. I don't Think AI should be considered just a tool.
etc. as well. Just add AI to the list. I don't think disclaimers are needed. >
There seems to be a LOT of bbs people using ai to make things. And
they don't give credit to AI. Just by the interfaces and graphics I
can tell it's AI.
I think it should just be assumed (and really, not judged) that AI is going to be used by anyone serious about development. It's like saying "I used a computer to make this", well, yeah, that's assumed. You used the Internet, an editor (maybe), a compiler, library manager, linker, build/project manager, etc. as well. Just add AI to the list. I don't think disclaimers are needed.
with ai you could be getting plagarized information, and in some cases perhaps It would violate the licensing of the old product or yours.
I think there should be a disclaimer if you have a co-contributer. I don't Think AI should be considered just a tool.
Seriously, if you are going to use AI stop making up stories and just say you are using ai.
I think if you're using ai you should give credit where credit is due.
Re: ai shit from bbs people.
By: MRO to Digital Man on Sun Jul 05 2026 08:27 pm
with ai you could be getting plagarized information, and in some cases perhaps It would violate the licensing of the old product or yours.
With human co-contributors you can get plagarized information too. Just assume AI is going to be used more often than not. And if AI isn't being used (at all? Not even for code review or testing?) - then I wouldn't think the project is very serious.
Re: ai shit from bbs people.
By: Digital Man to MRO on Sun Jul 05 2026 23:46:01
And if AI isn't being
used (at all? Not even for code review or testing?) - then I wouldn't think the project is very serious.
to explicitly produce scripts and codes without the use of AI for ethical usage.
And mind you, this package is in the booming field of computational
We people out are fighting the ethical battle, and someone just randomly throws that "unless AI used, package is not serious".
Ignorance is definitely a BLISS!
By: MRO to Digital Man on Sun Jul 05 2026 08:27 pmWith a human contributer then you can go after that guy.
with ai you could be getting plagarized information, and in some cases perhaps It would violate the licensing of the old product or yours.
With human co-contributors you can get plagarized information too. Just assume AI is going to be used more often than not. And if AI isn't being used
(at all? Not even for code review or testing?) - then I wouldn't think the project is very serious.
By: Hisacro to All on Mon Jul 06 2026 03:00 pm
We people out are fighting the ethical battle, and someone just randomly throws that "unless AI used, package is not serious".
Ignorance is definitely a BLISS!
You're welcome to your opinion, but it's no more informed than mine, I assure you. In the professional software development world, agentic development is here and it's only increasing in adoption and impact.
assure you. In the professional software development world, agentic development is here and it's only increasing in adoption and impact.
There seems to be a LOT of bbs people using ai to make things.
And they don't give credit to AI. Just by the interfaces and graphics
I can tell it's AI.
I think it should just be assumed (and really, not judged) that AI is going to be used by anyone serious about development. It's like saying "I used a computer to make this", well, yeah, that's assumed. You used the Internet, an editor (maybe), a compiler, library manager, linker, build/project manager, etc. as well. Just add AI to the list. I don't think disclaimers are needed.
assume AI is going to be used more often than not. And if AI isn't being used (at all? Not even for code review or testing?) - then I wouldn't think the project is very serious.
If you code an OS and say "He'^Hre's my OS!" It's not your OS. IT's the AIO' OS. You probably don't understand much about it. Because the AI did it for y
A friend of mine works on life-critical software and the customer is paying
Then other friends of mine are getting harased because they are not consuming enough AI tokens despite the fact all the work is getting
(at all? Not even for code review or testing?) - then I wouldn't think the project is very serious.
people got along just fine before ai. your opinion might be baised based on Your usage of AI.
I think it should just be assumed (and really, not judged) that AI is going
to be used by anyone serious about development. It's like saying "I used a
computer to make this", well, yeah, that's assumed. You used the Internet,
If you code an OS and say "He'^Hre's my OS!" It's not your OS. IT's the AIO's OS. You probably don't understand much about it. Because the AI did it for you.
So I thin kthere is a big difference between using a computer that you have to master to get something done, and having an AI one-shit^H^H--erm--ot it for you, then taking credit and money for it.
people got along just fine before ai. your opinion might be baised based on Your usage of AI.
My opinion is absolutely biased by my usage of AI. First-hand experience usually is the best source of an informed opinion.
people got along just fine before ai. your opinion might be baised based
on Your usage of AI.
My opinion is absolutely biased by my usage of AI. First-hand experience
usually is the best source of an informed opinion.
maybe so but you could like it so much that you can't generate a true unbiased Opinion.
You're talking about AI as if it's human, <sigh>, AI is just a tool, it's not a living organic being, maybe you indulge a bit to much in SciFi movies?
I totally disagree to this statement. My research group goes out of the way to explicitly produce scripts and codes without the use of AI for ethical usage.
I totally disagree to this statement. My research group goes out of the way to explicitly produce scripts and codes without the use of AI for ethical usage.
people got along just fine before ai. your opinion might be baised based on Your usage of AI.
What isn't useful, and what is bad, is using AI inseta... instead of one's brain. AI is great for learning programming. But if you use AI to vibe code everything, you don't learn much. And the result isn't trustworthy. Who has audieted the code? Nobody. "AI will audit it". It's a ^H^H^H not good enough imo.
If p^H I posted an AI generated paintaing and said "Here's my painting, what do you think?" It would be kind of deceptio^H ^Hve or delusional. IT's not my painting. IT's the AI's painting.
If you code an OS and say "He'^Hre's my OS!" It's not your OS. IT's the AIO's OS. You probably don't understand much about it. Because the AI did it for you.
Plagiarism in software engineering isn't much of a concern, because there's only so many ways you can write a function. In the end it's all about how you put those functions together. For decades people have been copy/pasting code snippits off of places like Stackoverflow into their own programs, this isn't much different.
My opinion is absolutely biased by my usage of AI. First-hand experience usually is the best source of an informed opinion.
maybe so but you could like it so much that you can't generate a true unbiased Opinion.
Here, let's take it from my point of view: I think LLMs are an abomination, > > they're going to cause a massive drop in software engineers' ability to
code
things by hand, and potentially will contribute to the "dumbing down" of society.
BUT, I agree with everthing DM has said. "Serious" may not be the best description, but it fits. Basically anyone who writes code that's not just their own little solo-side-project is probably using some kind of AI-assistance.
BUT, I agree with everthing DM has said. "Serious" may not be the best
description, but it fits. Basically anyone who writes code that's not just
their own little solo-side-project is probably using some kind of
AI-assistance.
The only thing i'm saying is they should give credit where credit is due. I'm not happy with 'just assume everyone is'.
Furthermore programmers will be held accountable for their ai contributer so that's something to be concerned about.
their primary job function), I can see vibe coding as a way to help develop things for them.
Anthropic seems to go out of their way to ensure Claude usage noted in git commits, documentation, and sometimes the code itself. Not to mention if you > have Claude push your git commits, "Claude" shows up as a contributor on
github.
Is it? Sure they can use "oh my AI wrote it" as a cop-out response if something is broken, but to borrow a line from DM, no serious programmer will use that excuse.
Software has always been a "buyer beware" ecosystem. In the end, it's on the person installing the software to know what they're getting into.
"Using AI" doesn't mean it does the entire thing for you. You can have AI
You're talking about AI as if it's human, <sigh>, AI is just a tool, it's
What isn't useful, and what is bad, is using AI inseta... instead of one's brain. AI is great for learning programming. But if you use AI to
For software developers, I agree. But for people who aren't software developers (who haven't learned that skill and aren't software developers as their primary job function), I can see vibe coding as a way to help develop things for them.
Software developers already tend to Google things fairly often, and look on sites like stackoverflow.com and others for advice and examples of how to accomplish tasks in software development. I don't think it's really that much different to use an AI tool to help.
Is it? Sure they can use "oh my AI wrote it" as a cop-out response if
something is broken, but to borrow a line from DM, no serious programmer
will use that excuse.
That's no excuse that will be accepted in court.
Software has always been a "buyer beware" ecosystem. In the end, it's on
the person installing the software to know what they're getting into.
That's the way you feel, it's not the way other people feel.
Software developers already tend to Google things fairly often, and look on
sites like stackoverflow.com and others for advice and examples of how to
accomplish tasks in software development. I don't think it's really that
much different to use an AI tool to help.
Sorry, but it's completely different. As someone who has spent considerable time on SO and using AI, there's no comparison. AI is a coding companion. Furthermore, SO can't vibe code you a whole app.
That's the way you feel, it's not the way other people feel.
Feel or not, for as long as I've been using computers, just about every program I've installed comes with a license and a disclaimer that basically says "Developer is not responsible if this blows up your computer".
The file areas of each of our BBSes still holds tons of old shareware programs that each contain "As-Is" disclaimers (Limitation of Liability).
The only time these disclaimers don't hold up is in the case of gross negligence, and I'm not sure "An AI wrote it" would qualify.
You're talking about AI as if it's human, <sigh>, AI is just a tool, it's
AI is a tool that will vibe code you an OS. Your vibe code isn't yours. It's the AI's. SciFi has nothing to do with it.
The file areas of each of our BBSes still holds tons of old shareware
programs that each contain "As-Is" disclaimers (Limitation of Liability).
The only time these disclaimers don't hold up is in the case of gross
negligence, and I'm not sure "An AI wrote it" would qualify.
people can write disclaimers as much as they want. they aren't worth what they are printed on. i can write a disclaimer that says you owe me your first born If you run my program and click yes. That doesn't mean it holds any weight.
Limitation of Liability is a common thing in EULAs and software licenses.
But feel free to go sue Microsoft because An update caused your main hard drive to disappear. (A thing that has happened to me)
"Using AI" doesn't mean it does the entire thing for you. You can have AI write bits here and there that you incorporate into the final product. Does that still make it the AI's OS?
Furthermore, SO can't vibe code you a whole app.
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Although AI tools are trained with existing data, I still wonder about ethical usage.
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Another thing about the ethical angle: In my experience, companies want their employees to be using AI tools to increase productivity. Time is money, so if you're not using all the tools available to make you as productive as possible (thus, making the employer spend more money via your salary to get a project done), I think that could be seen as not ethical from the company's standpoint.
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Re: ai shit from bbs people.
By: Outlaw to Digital Man on Sun Jul 05 2026 20:34:48
yeah i think AI is here to stay ... unfortunately i think its just a reality that we all have to get used to .
time to find answers to things quicker when i get stumped ... i dont
like admitting it but hey it is a handy tool to have in the pocket !
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