• Dedicated sound cards for

    From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to All on Monday, January 05, 2026 09:11:00
    What do you all think of using a dedicated sound card for a PC these days? Is there any benefit anymore?

    Years ago, I think there was still a benefit in that a dedicated sound card typically had sound processing chips on it, whereas onboard audio on a motherboard would be very simplistic and would need CPU processing power for audio. For that reason, I still used a dedicated sound card in my PCs for a while. The last one I used was an Asus Xonar Xense in my last PC - I think it worked well.

    For my current PC (which I built in 2019), I decided to just use the onboard audio on the motherboard rather than buying a dedicated audio card, and I think it has been just fine. I typically use a pair of stereo speakers, and I also have a headset with a mic that I sometimes use, plugged into the front audio ports. My PC's motherboard uses a Realtek ALC1220P for audio - I've looked up specs and reviews, and it seems to be decent in that regard.

    One of my favorite sound cards that I had in the past was a Sound Blaster Audigy 2, which included an internal 5.25" front-facing panel with various audio inputs & outputs, as well as a MIDI input & output - I thought that was pretty cool.

    If you do have a need for better audio on a PC, I've heard people recommend an external audio interface these days (typically USB-based).

    Nightfox

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  • From Lonewolf@VERT/BINARYDR to Nightfox on Monday, January 05, 2026 14:53:00
    Re: Dedicated sound cards for a PC
    By: Nightfox to All on Mon Jan 05 2026 09:11 am

    What do you all think of using a dedicated sound card for a PC these days? Is there any benefit anymore?
    If you do have a need for better audio on a PC, I've heard people recommend an external audio interface these days (typically USB-based).

    Nightfox

    I record music some, so I use an external USB Focusrite Scarlett audio interface. It makes a great sound card with easy access to io ports. I agree with you on the Sound Blaster cards. I had a higher end one years ago (can't remember which one now) and I used to love to play midi files through it as it has real instrument sounds.

    LW
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Lonewolf on Monday, January 05, 2026 14:19:00
    Re: Dedicated sound cards for a PC
    By: Lonewolf to Nightfox on Mon Jan 05 2026 02:53 pm

    I record music some, so I use an external USB Focusrite Scarlett audio interface. It makes a great sound card with easy access to io ports. I agree with you on the Sound Blaster cards. I had a higher end one years ago (can't remember which one now) and I used to love to play midi files through it as it has real instrument sounds.

    These days, it seems software-based MIDI synthesizers are typically used (and Windows has one built-in). For music recording, software-based MIDI synthesizers (as part of the music recording software) probably make more sense - I believe it's easier to render MIDI to an audio file if it's software-based.

    Nightfox

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  • From Mortar@VERT/EOTLBBS to Nightfox on Monday, January 05, 2026 19:35:00
    Re: Dedicated sound cards for a PC
    By: Nightfox to Lonewolf on Mon Jan 05 2026 14:19:09

    These days, it seems software-based MIDI synthesizers are typically used (and Windows has one built-in).

    Really? I'm using 10 and 11 and I've never come accross a synth.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Monday, January 05, 2026 19:45:00
    Re: Dedicated sound cards for a PC
    By: Nightfox to All on Mon Jan 05 2026 09:11 am

    What do you all think of using a dedicated sound card for a PC these days? Is there any benefit anymore?

    I bought a pre-built gaming PC last year and the onboard audio output had constant interference noise. So I bought a cheap USB audio dongle from Sound Blaster:
    https://www.amazon.com/Creative-Labs-70SB173000000-Sound-Blaster/dp/B06XBZ38ZJ

    And no noise. <shrug> But I usually use onboard audio (for output only) when it's available and works fine.
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  • From Mindsurfer@VERT/FUNTOPIA to Nightfox on Tuesday, January 06, 2026 16:45:00
    Re: Dedicated sound cards for a PC
    By: Nightfox to All on Mon Jan 05 2026 09:11:01

    What do you all think of using a dedicated sound card for a PC these days? Is there any benefit anymore?

    if you want to use good active studio quality speakers or if you want to record external audio from a studio microphone with xlr connector or from an instrument every entry level external usb audio interface from focusrite, beringer etc pp is good.

    for more inputs/outputs and more pro features, sky is the limit. there are interfaces for every need and every wallet/price point.

    on a sidenote: room treatment can also increase your sound quality significantly, depending on your room situation. Empty walls, for example, can produce unpleasant flutter echoes.

    Generelly speaking, i think build in audio is already quite good nowadays. Sure you have the minijack connectors only but depending on the mainboard, the audio quality and mixing features can be quite decent already.

    Mindsurfer

    i currently have a Behringer UMC1820 (159,-EUR) + Focal solo6 be Speakers.
    The smallest Focusrite usb interface: Focusrite Scarlett Solo 3rd Gen (89,-EUR)

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  • From Mindsurfer@VERT/FUNTOPIA to Nightfox on Tuesday, January 06, 2026 16:50:00
    Re: Dedicated sound cards for a PC
    By: Nightfox to All on Mon Jan 05 2026 09:11:01

    For my current PC (which I built in 2019), I decided to just use the onboard audio on the motherboard rather than buying a dedicated audio card, and I think it has been just fine. I typically use a pair of stereo speakers, and I also have a headset with a mic that I sometimes use, plugged into the front audio ports. My PC's motherboard uses a Realtek ALC1220P for audio - I've looked up specs and reviews, and it seems to be decent in that regard.

    The only concern with internal audio interfaces is that poorly shielded other internal devices could interfere with the audio signal. This may occur, but it is not guaranteed.

    Mindsurfer

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mortar on Tuesday, January 06, 2026 10:44:00
    Re: Dedicated sound cards for a PC
    By: Mortar to Nightfox on Mon Jan 05 2026 07:35 pm

    These days, it seems software-based MIDI synthesizers are typically used
    (and Windows has one built-in).

    Really? I'm using 10 and 11 and I've never come accross a synth.

    If you open up a MIDI file and play it (i.e., with a program like VLC), chances are it will be using a software synthesizer built into Windows.

    Nightfox

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  • From Mindsurfer@VERT/FUNTOPIA to Nightfox on Tuesday, January 06, 2026 21:35:00
    Re: Dedicated sound cards for a PC
    By: Nightfox to Mortar on Tue Jan 06 2026 10:44:18

    These days, it seems software-based MIDI synthesizers are typically used
    (and Windows has one built-in).

    Really? I'm using 10 and 11 and I've never come accross a synth.

    If you open up a MIDI file and play it (i.e., with a program like VLC), chances are it will be using a software synthesizer built into Windows.

    Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth,
    but it might be a bit far fedched to call it a synth. I think it is more like a sample player / rompler following the GM/GS Midi Standard.

    It is mainly based on the Roland SC-55 soundset and licensed from Roland.
    It supports General MIDI and includes 226 normal instrument presets (128 General MIDI and 98 Roland GS-specific) and 9 drumkits, with a maximum polyphony of 32 notes.
    https://www.oocities.org/tikaimoy/tutorial/gmgs.html

    Despite its name, it is only partially compliant with the Roland GS standard, lacking key features such as reverb, chorus, and delay effects, and it does not include a low-pass filter, which distinguishes it from hardware devices like the Roland Sound Canvas series.

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  • From Lonewolf@VERT/BINARYDR to Nightfox on Tuesday, January 06, 2026 16:11:00
    Re: Dedicated sound cards for a PC
    By: Nightfox to Mortar on Tue Jan 06 2026 10:44 am

    Re: Dedicated sound cards for a PC
    By: Mortar to Nightfox on Mon Jan 05 2026 07:35 pm

    These days, it seems software-based MIDI synthesizers are typically used
    (and Windows has one built-in).

    I know this is getting in the weeds some from your original question. But, you can go a step farther with MIDI files and use a software DAW like Cubase and assign virtual instruments VSTs to each track within the MIDI file and end up with a great sounding audio track. I recalled Al Stewart's Year of the Cat being a great one to do that with. In my earlier reply I mentioned an older Sound Blaster AWE32/64 card that I had that had these realistic instrument sounds embedded in the chip. Which sounded superior even to the one's on modern mother boards. I'm not sure if modern Sound Blaster's like the Z SE PCIe achieve the same, but I guess they would take some of the load off the CPU if doing some gaming etc. Anyway, my two cents.

    Lonewolf
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mindsurfer on Tuesday, January 06, 2026 14:52:00
    Re: Dedicated sound cards for
    By: Mindsurfer to Nightfox on Tue Jan 06 2026 09:35 pm

    If you open up a MIDI file and play it (i.e., with a program like VLC),
    chances are it will be using a software synthesizer built into Windows.

    Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth,
    but it might be a bit far fedched to call it a synth. I think it is more like a sample player / rompler following the GM/GS Midi Standard.

    I think synth/synthesizer is the standard term for it though.. I was just using the terminology I've heard for it. :)

    Nightfox

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  • From Mindsurfer@VERT/FUNTOPIA to Nightfox on Wednesday, January 07, 2026 01:35:00
    Re: Dedicated sound cards for
    By: Nightfox to Mindsurfer on Tue Jan 06 2026 14:52:59

    If you open up a MIDI file and play it (i.e., with a program like VLC),
    chances are it will be using a software synthesizer built into Windows.

    Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth,
    but it might be a bit far fedched to call it a synth. I think it is more
    like a sample player / rompler following the GM/GS Midi Standard.

    I think synth/synthesizer is the standard term for it though.. I was just using the terminology I've heard for it. :)

    it's its official name "Wavetable Synth". You did nothing wrong with calling it synth. Thats not what i meant. I just mean a synth in my mind has oscilators, waveforms, filters and alot of sound bending parameters.

    Maybe it was also a marketing decision of microsoft to call it synth, cause synths are cool! ;)

    Mindsurfer

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Lonewolf on Tuesday, January 06, 2026 17:37:00
    Re: Dedicated sound cards for a PC
    By: Lonewolf to Nightfox on Tue Jan 06 2026 04:11 pm

    These days, it seems software-based MIDI synthesizers are typically used
    (and Windows has one built-in).

    I know this is getting in the weeds some from your original question. But, you can go a step farther with MIDI files and use a software DAW like Cubase and assign virtual instruments VSTs to each track within the MIDI file and end up with a great sounding audio track.

    Yes, I think that's one advantage to software-based MIDI synthesizers. Also, in particular with a DAW, I think you need a software-based MIDI synth in order to render the recording to an audio file.

    In my earlier reply I
    mentioned an older Sound Blaster AWE32/64 card that I had that had these realistic instrument sounds embedded in the chip. Which sounded superior even to the one's on modern mother boards.

    Are there (or were there ever) any motherboards with on-board hardware MIDI capabilities? I don't recall if I've ever seen or heard of one.

    Nightfox

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Nightfox on Thursday, January 08, 2026 09:05:00
    Re: Dedicated sound cards for a PC
    By: Nightfox to All on Mon Jan 05 2026 09:11 am

    What do you all think of using a dedicated sound card for a PC these days? Is there any benefit anymore?

    Honestly, most people uses very lame sound output so the soud chipset they use makes no difference.

    I mean, I remember people used to have proper speakers, like PRIMAX Sounstorms and the like. That stuff sounded very close to a hi-fi dedicated system. Nowadays they use small speakers bought for 7 bucks that lack the size to output a proper frequency range.

    Redneck kids these days have better sound systems in their cars than people has in their computers.


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