Not quite. C came out in '72 while C++ came out in '85 and is an exten of C.

you reply to the person instead of typing all. you're using the fseditor.

Synchronet is a pain in the ass.

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Re: Re: C Origins
By: Shitty to MRO on Thu Jul 17 2025 11:03 pm

Not quite. C came out in '72 while C++ came out in
'85 and is an exten of C.

you reply to the person instead of typing all. you're using the fseditor.

Synchronet is a pain in the ass.

but you have the ability to change it into anything if it's a pain in the
ass to you. i see you're running mystic.

mystic bbs became what those guys said synchronet was. just a bunch of
boring stock boards mostly. on top of that it still doesn't have its own fossil driver, right?

btw, i never got a thank you for getting their domain name back to them.
tacky.
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Synchronet is a pain in the ass.

but you have the ability to change it into anything if it's a pain in the ass to you. i see you're running mystic.

The stock Synch boards (aka all of them) have a feature where you can make your menus and hotkeys similar to a stock Renegade board, which makes the experience ok until you enter the message reader or the message editor. That's where the buzz is killed completely.

mystic bbs became what those guys said synchronet was. just a bunch of boring stock boards mostly. on top of that it still doesn't have its
own fossil driver, right?

There's no need for one unless you want to play old door games.

btw, i never got a thank you for getting their domain name back to them. tacky.

When you do something for someone, you should do it out of the goodness of your heart, not to get a thank you. You want g00r00 to get on both knees for you?

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Re: Re: C Origins
By: shitty to MRO on Tue May 19 2026 09:43 pm

Synchronet is a pain in the ass.

but you have the ability to change it into anything if it's a pain in the ass to you. i see you're running mystic.

The stock Synch boards (aka all of them) have a feature where you can
make your menus and hotkeys similar to a stock Renegade board, which
makes the experience ok until you enter the message reader or the
message editor. That's where the buzz is killed completely.

well the msg reader and the msg reader are 2 different things.

I dont like the DMmsgreader. are you talking about that?
The regular synchronet msg reader is comparable to other bbs softwares.
BBS sysops can install whatever editor they want. i even made one out of AI and a lot of tweaking. right now i'm using quikedit aka iceedit.

like i said, if you are a sysop you can change how things work and look with synchronet. you don't have to be a programmer.

now mystic bbses are the ones that are the stock bbses. it's ironic they used to talk shit about synchronet and now they are like that.

mystic bbs became what those guys said synchronet was. just a bunch
of boring stock boards mostly. on top of that it still doesn't have its own fossil driver, right?

There's no need for one unless you want to play old door games.

well doorgames are a big thing with bbses, right?

btw, i never got a thank you for getting their domain name back to them. tacky.

When you do something for someone, you should do it out of the
goodness of your heart, not to get a thank you. You want g00r00 to
get on both knees for you?

Yes i do expect him to get on both knees for me. but i heard he ghosted everyone again. Is this like the 5th time he did it? I lost count.

Also, I don't think he's ever said thank you to anybody in his life.

And before i thought you were the guy running mystic. you are a user on
these bbses. if you have suggestions you should send feedback to the sysop. it won't hurt anything.

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shitty wrote to MRO <=-

The stock Synch boards (aka all of them) have a feature where you can
make your menus and hotkeys similar to a stock Renegade board, which
makes the experience ok until you enter the message reader or the
message editor. That's where the buzz is killed completely.

There's SlyEdit and DDMsgReader, which give you a decent editor and
threadable message lister/reader - that makes a nice bump and both come
with Synchronet in the XTRN directory.

I'm running the Renegade menus, with some ANSIs and color
customization. Not sure that the stock message experience is a
buzzkill, but I like the old school look of stock. Then again, I do
most of my messaging through QWK, which is does well - I can FTP
packets and replies to/from the BBS.




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Re: Re: C Origins
By: poindexter FORTRAN to shitty on Thu May 21 2026 08:04 am

There's SlyEdit and DDMsgReader, which give you a decent editor and threadable message lister/reader - that makes a nice bump and both come with Synchronet in the XTRN directory.

DDMsgReader is in the xtrn directory, but SlyEdit is in the exec directory.

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I dont like the DMmsgreader. are you talking about that?
The regular synchronet msg reader is comparable to other bbs softwares. BBS sysops can install whatever editor they want. i even made one out
of AI and a lot of tweaking. right now i'm using quikedit aka iceedit.

I visit Shenk's Express (a synch board) sometimes. I don't know which message editor it has, but it's a pain in the ass. Ctrl-U to quote, Ctrl-Z to save. It's just hard to remember.

I can say this this nice thing about Synchronet: The message base system is more user-friendly than than Wildcat or PC Board.

There's no need for one unless you want to play old door games.

well doorgames are a big thing with bbses, right?

I'm not sure, but it would be interesting to read a statistic that tracks how many people are still playing them (and which ones.)

And before i thought you were the guy running mystic. you are a user on these bbses. if you have suggestions you should send feedback to the sysop. it won't hurt anything.

My suggestion to all sysops: Focus on making apps for the Google Play Store and the Apple store (whatever its called.)

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I'm running the Renegade menus, with some ANSIs and color
customization. Not sure that the stock message experience is a
buzzkill, but I like the old school look of stock. Then again, I do
most of my messaging through QWK, which is does well - I can FTP
packets and replies to/from the BBS.

Are you using BlueWave?

That's probably what I should do to join the conversation on Synch boards.

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Re: Re: C Origins
By: Shitty to MRO on Fri May 22 2026 12:14 am

I dont like the DMmsgreader. are you talking about
that? The regular synchronet msg reader is comparable to other bbs softwares. BBS sysops can install whatever editor they want. i even made one out of AI and a lot of tweaking. right now i'm using
quikedit aka iceedit.

I visit Shenk's Express (a synch board) sometimes. I don't know which message editor it has, but it's a pain in the ass. Ctrl-U to quote,
Ctrl-Z to save. It's just hard to remember.

that's a bad example.
that bbs is kinda stock and corney.

those command keys were deuce's decisions. i talked to him about it but he wouldnt change it. we can use all kinds of editors in synchronet bbs.
there is even a default built in editor.

There's no need for one unless you want to play old door games.

well doorgames are a big thing with bbses, right?

I'm not sure, but it would be interesting to read a statistic
that tracks how many people are still playing them (and which ones.)

we would all have to be running some data gathering software and i dont think we can get everyone on board with tht.

My suggestion to all sysops: Focus on making apps for the Google
Play Store and the Apple store (whatever its called.)

make what apps? you mean like a stand alone app that calls our bbses?
it's kind of hard to use a bbs on a phone.


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Re: Re: C Origins
By: Shitty to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri May 22 2026 12:18 am

I'm running the Renegade menus, with some ANSIs and
color customization. Not sure that the stock message experience
is a buzzkill, but I like the old school look of stock. Then again,
I do most of my messaging through QWK, which is does well - I can
FTP packets and replies to/from the BBS.

Are you using BlueWave?

That's probably what I should do to join the conversation on Synch
boards.

he's probably using multimail for offline reading.
you can connect to some synchronet bbses via nntp.
we also have web interfaces.


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Shitty wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Are you using BlueWave?

That's probably what I should do to join the conversation on Synch
boards.

I'm using MultiMail. I was a longtime BlueWave user, but after Y2K
started using Multimail instead. It looks/feels like BlueWave did, but
there are DOS, Windows, OS/2, Linux and Mac versions. Only does QWK
format packets, but I don't think anyone's running a BW door these days.

Like BlueWave, you can install whatever text editor you'd like to
create/reply to messages.

https://github.com/wmcbrine/MultiMail





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Re: Re: C Origins
By: Shitty to MRO on Fri May 22 2026 12:14 am

I visit Shenk's Express (a synch board) sometimes. I don't know which message editor it has, but it's a pain in the ass. Ctrl-U to quote, Ctrl-Z to save. It's just hard to remember.

I just checked that BBS out - They have FSEditor and SlyEdit set up. With SlyEdit, as alternates for those quote & save keys, you can quote by typing /q on a blank line by itself & pressing enter and similarly, save with /s .

Nightfox

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That's probably what I should do to join the conversation on Synch boards.

I'm using MultiMail. I was a longtime BlueWave user, but after Y2K
started using Multimail instead. It looks/feels like BlueWave did, but there are DOS, Windows, OS/2, Linux and Mac versions. Only does QWK
format packets, but I don't think anyone's running a BW door these days.

False statement! MultiMail is what I use to read Bluewave packets. :D

It can handle either.


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I visit Shenk's Express (a synch board) sometimes. I don't know which message editor it has, but it's a pain in the ass. Ctrl-U to quote, Ctrl-Z to save. It's just hard to remember.

that's a bad example.
that bbs is kinda stock and corney.

Sometimes stock boards are the most functional. People play around with stuff until they break it (I've been guilty of it.)

I'm not sure, but it would be interesting to read a statistic
that tracks how many people are still playing them (and which ones.)

we would all have to be running some data gathering software and i dont think we can get everyone on board with tht.

I'd do it for my own BBS, then I'd get rid of doors that people don't play. (It's more of a source of truth than the voting booth.)

My suggestion to all sysops: Focus on making apps for the Google
Play Store and the Apple store (whatever its called.)

make what apps? you mean like a stand alone app that calls our bbses?
it's kind of hard to use a bbs on a phone.

No I meant let's ditch BBSs and make our own modern social networks. That way we're not just sniffing Digital Man's farts.

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Are you using BlueWave?

That's probably what I should do to join the conversation on Synch boards.

he's probably using multimail for offline reading.
you can connect to some synchronet bbses via nntp.
we also have web interfaces.

Do you have a web interface set up? I heard that it could be done with Synch but I haven't seen it in action yet.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2023/02/26 (Linux/64)
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Are you using BlueWave?

That's probably what I should do to join the conversation on Synch boards.

I'm using MultiMail. I was a longtime BlueWave user, but after Y2K
started using Multimail instead. It looks/feels like BlueWave did, but there are DOS, Windows, OS/2, Linux and Mac versions. Only does QWK
format packets, but I don't think anyone's running a BW door these days.

Like BlueWave, you can install whatever text editor you'd like to create/reply to messages.

https://github.com/wmcbrine/MultiMail

Thanks and I am going to give it a try. It sucks getting timed out on BBSs that have inactivity timeouts. (Doesn't it seem like that shouldn't be a thing these days?)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2023/02/26 (Linux/64)
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I visit Shenk's Express (a synch board) sometimes. I don't know which message editor it has, but it's a pain in the ass. Ctrl-U to quote, C to save. It's just hard to remember.

I just checked that BBS out - They have FSEditor and SlyEdit set up.
With SlyEdit, as alternates for those quote & save keys, you can quote
by typing /q on a blank line by itself & pressing enter and similarly, save with /s .

My bad! I was overcomplicating it.

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Re: Re: C Origins
By: Shitty to MRO on Sun May 24 2026 12:40 am

No I meant let's ditch BBSs and make our own modern social networks.

i dont want to socialize with these bbs people. they're a bunch of lame
fucks.

there's the boring people and the posers. i'm the only cool guy here.

That way we're not just sniffing Digital Man's farts.

what the hell! how dare you! Didn't you see his ebike video?


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Re: Re: C Origins
By: Shitty to MRO on Sun May 24 2026 12:41 am

Are you using BlueWave?

That's probably what I should do to join the conversation
on Synch boards.

he's probably using multimail for offline reading. you can connect
to some synchronet bbses via nntp. we also have web interfaces.

Do you have a web interface set up? I heard that it could be done
with Synch but I haven't seen it in action yet.

yeah there's like 2 web interfaces with synchronet that allow you to view and post msgs or send email. other people are doing cooler shit.

other people are using ai to make bbses. like that claudes bbs guy and stinray. they have systems that look the same.


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Re: Re: C Origins
By: Shitty to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun May 24 2026 12:46 am

Thanks and I am going to give it a try. It sucks getting timed out
on BBSs that have inactivity timeouts. (Doesn't it seem like that
shouldn't be a thing these days?)

events have to run and people can't hang online all day.

if you hit ctrl p you can get little telegram popup that that might stop you from timing out.


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MRO wrote to Shitty <=-

Thanks and I am going to give it a try. It sucks getting timed out
on BBSs that have inactivity timeouts. (Doesn't it seem like that
shouldn't be a thing these days?)

events have to run and people can't hang online all day.

True.

if you hit ctrl p you can get little telegram popup that that might
stop you from timing out.

Yeah or maybe wake the fuck up and pay attention.



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Mike Powell wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

False statement! MultiMail is what I use to read Bluewave packets. :D

It can handle either.

I did not know that! I liked the BW format more than QWK, wish more
boards supported it.



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Shitty wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Thanks and I am going to give it a try. It sucks getting timed out on
BBSs that have inactivity timeouts. (Doesn't it seem like that
shouldn't be a thing these days?)

Not when you can send up 6-10 telnet nodes on a low-end box...



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On 24 May 2026, MRO said the following...

yeah there's like 2 web interfaces with synchronet that allow you to
view and post msgs or send email. other people are doing cooler shit.

other people are using ai to make bbses. like that claudes bbs guy and stinray. they have systems that look the same.

makes me wanna tinker with mine again. i mostly wanted to make the reader scroll the whole thread like you would a web forum rather than it being
message based.

also get rid of the initial login entirely and just ask before posting or loading a door or whatever.

*shrug*

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Re: Re: C Origins
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Mike Powell on Sun May 24 2026 09:08 am

I did not know that! I liked the BW format more than QWK, wish more
boards supported it.

I looked into BlueWave kind of recently and I can tell you: it's file format actually kind of sucks - I would have added support otherwise. QWK with the Synchronet extensions (mainly HEADERS.DAT file) are way better than BW.
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Re: Re: C Origins
By: Gamgee to MRO on Sun May 24 2026 08:05 am

if you hit ctrl p you can get little telegram popup that that might stop you from timing out.

Yeah or maybe wake the fuck up and pay attention.

it's happened to me. i have to go do something and i forget and i'm still online. but what sucks is with mystic bbs you get stuck on the node for a long long time and can't login.


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Re: Re: C Origins
By: fusion to MRO on Sun May 24 2026 04:25 pm

makes me wanna tinker with mine again. i mostly wanted to make the
reader scroll the whole thread like you would a web forum rather
than it being message based.

also get rid of the initial login entirely and just ask before
posting or loading a door or whatever.

messing around with ai was a little 'fun' for a while and i did learn more about javascript when correcting the code.

now with claude i get cut off so much i dont even use it. i have a monopoly game that is 99% done but i need to fix the way it looks and that's on my largely.


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