Re: chksetup.js output
By: Digital Man to MRO on Sat Apr 25 2026 09:12 pm

i updated one that was in c:\synchronet and it didn't work out well

What happened?

i also set the environment in the Os.

Okay. But what happened?

Like i said, The update scripts wouldn't work correctly.

update.js you mean?

I had to change everything to sbbs\ and then change it back later.

That's pretty weird.

https://www.veed.io/view/ad2b464a-af68-43c3-96eb-8802f0ad396d?source=editor&pa nel=share

https://tinyurl.com/sbbsupdate1

so i nailed it down i think. i typed c:\synchronet in the update program and the upgrade scripts still try for sbbs\ if there is no sbbsctrl or sbbsnode environment set.

i was doing this on a vm.
this was on windows 8 32bit because the sysops bbs was running on that os.

after i set the environments and ran it again it worked correctly.

sorry for posting this on unix; this was a windows bbs.


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Re: chksetup.js output
By: MRO to Digital Man on Sun Apr 26 2026 02:55 am

Re: chksetup.js output
By: Digital Man to MRO on Sat Apr 25 2026 09:12 pm

i updated one that was in c:\synchronet and it didn't work out well

What happened?

i also set the environment in the Os.

Okay. But what happened?

Like i said, The update scripts wouldn't work correctly.

update.js you mean?

I had to change everything to sbbs\ and then change it back later.

That's pretty weird.

https://www.veed.io/view/ad2b464a-af68-43c3-96eb-8802f0ad396d?source=editor& pa nel=share

https://tinyurl.com/sbbsupdate1

so i nailed it down i think. i typed c:\synchronet in the update program and the upgrade scripts still try for sbbs\ if there is no sbbsctrl or sbbsnode environment set.

So Synchronet wasn't previously installed on that system (VM). The upgrade*.exe program automatically pulls the installation location from the registry (so it would have been prepopulated with "c:\synchronet" in the target folder prompt) *and* the SBBSCTRL environment variable would have been set already as well. The fact that the prerequisite MSVC libraries weren't already installed (as demonstrated in the video) is another good clue that Synchronet wasn't previously installed on that system.

i was doing this on a vm.
this was on windows 8 32bit because the sysops bbs was running on that os.

after i set the environments and ran it again it worked correctly.

I don't see anything to change from my perspective.
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Re: chksetup.js output
By: MRO to Digital Man on Mon Apr 27 2026 02:33 am

Re: chksetup.js output
By: Digital Man to MRO on Sun Apr 26 2026 10:47 pm

well it depends on what you consider installed.

"installed" means having run the installer.

that's for noobs.

It's the supported method.

Synchronet has always had an installer, even going back to the MS-DOS days.

yeah but you have a track record of having huge huge delays before releases. so we've been depending on the cvs and now git and your bbs to get files.

Updating an existing installation is different than never having installed in the first place.

Largely, sbbs installers do things that not many established sysops need.

You don't know what you're talking about.
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Re: chksetup.js output
By: Digital Man to MRO on Mon Apr 27 2026 11:17 am

that's for noobs.

It's the supported method.

it doesnt matter. you dont need to run a janky installer
to run synchronet. you just need the files and run it.

you forced us to do that for many many many years.

Updating an existing installation is different than never having
installed in the first place.

eventually over time that becomes a very gray area. things change over the years. especially since i've ran synchronet since 2000.

You don't know what you're talking about.

whatever, just fix the bugs i reported. or dont. i got around the problem in
a few seconds anyways. even though i dont know anything.
Next time i won't say anything and you can keep the bugs.

I see you already have enough quiet people in your clique
because the 3.21 release had a ton of issues.



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MRO wrote to Digital Man <=-

it doesnt matter. you dont need to run a janky installer
to run synchronet. you just need the files and run it.
you forced us to do that for many many many years.

Love it. The MRO derp telling the developer how his software should be
used. Typical blowhard BS.

Updating an existing installation is different than never having
installed in the first place.

eventually over time that becomes a very gray area. things change over
the years. especially since i've ran synchronet since 2000.

Yup, things change. Non-idiots adapt to that and make changes and keep
things cleaned up.

You don't know what you're talking about.

whatever, just fix the bugs i reported. or dont. i got around the
problem in a few seconds anyways. even though i dont know anything.
Next time i won't say anything and you can keep the bugs.

Please stick to that "next time" thing. EVERYBODY will be much happier
if you "don't say anything". You are correct though, where you said
"even though I don't know anything".

I see you already have enough quiet people in your clique
because the 3.21 release had a ton of issues.

Go use Mystic, wanker.


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